In article <20011108.123917.1486222842.1948 / zipworld.com.au>, "HarryO" <harryo / zipworld.com.au> wrote: > I was doing that at 0400 this morning, so maybe when I get back to it > later today it will become obvious what's going on ... I live in hope > :-). Note to self ... always check the data first! It turned out that I was telling expect to look for "(drb:1)" instead of "(rdb:1)" ... tends to make it rather hard to get a match !! I'm still interested in a pointer to the pty stuff, if anyone can give me one, but it looks like I'll be able to get away with the facilities provided by Open3. Thanks to the people who replied to my post.