On 3/15/07, Robert Dober <robert.dober / gmail.com> wrote: > It might be noteworthy though that the Squeak folks *are* the original > developers of Smalltalk. Well Dan Ingalls was one of the Squeak developers, and the first Smalltalk implementer. He actually amazed Alan Kay when he showed him an actuall implementation of the ideas which Alan had sketched out on a single sheet of paper. If I'm not mistaken Dan's first Smaltalk interpreter was written in Basic of all things, but he carried it through many significant stages including Smalltalk-72, Smalltalk-76 and Smalltalk-80. The last I heard Dan was working for Sun on Java, although still making contributions to Squeak. Another main contributor to Squeak is/was John Maloney who's a bit too young to be an original Smalltalk contributer. John was a student of Alan Borning at the University of Washinton. Borning had built a constraint-based simulation system in Smalltalk named Thinglab. John (along with Bjorn Freeman-Benson) built a more generalized constraint-based system called Thinglab II as doctoral students under Borning. And of course Alan Kay was involved as well, Squeak started while he was an Apple Fellow, and continued with funding from Disney when he became a Disney Fellow. I suspect that Alan's major role was as a idea/spark generator, cheerleader and user of Squeak for his multi-media simulation projects with kids. My first encounter with Squeak came at OOPSLA many years ago. It was about the time when Java was really starting to take the wind out of Smaltalk's sails, probably more do to the fact that IBM and ParcPlace Digitalk were charging big bucks for Smalltalk implementations while Java could be had for free as long as you accepted Sun's licensing terms. As I recall, John Maloney invited me to a birds-of-a-feather session. I walked into the room to find all these Smalltalkers huddled together marveling over the constraint based Morphic MVC framework, and Dan's music synthesis code. I had the impression that we were like the Christians hiding out in the catacombs while the Romans(Java drinkers) were having their orgies outside. <G> -- Rick DeNatale My blog on Ruby http://talklikeaduck.denhaven2.com/