On 3/13/07, Chad Perrin <perrin / apotheon.com> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:02:36PM +0900, Robert Dober wrote: > > On 3/13/07, John Joyce <dangerwillrobinsondanger / gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >I don't want to start a war or big debate, but the FSF threatening > > >legal action against little guys is not good, they should be going > > >after bigger fish to pursue their goals. But the idea of forcing > > >everyone else to make free software is a bit extreme. GPL3 is a bit > > >wacked. I respect their place in history, but even reading the FSF > > >coding guidelines sounds like Stallman speaking rather than rational > > >writing. Perhaps his ego has gotten the best of him. > > > > > > > > No problem this can only be a healthy thing, stretching our tolerance as I > > said. > > > > It is normal that some rumors are worrying but what do we really know about > > that threats? > > Quite a bit, if you were following the news on the subject at the time. > I'm sure you could confirm the details pretty easily -- an FSF > spokesperson would probably even give you some official position paper > on the subject if you asked persistently (and politely) enough. Be > aware there'd be spin on it -- but I'm pretty sure you could pick out > the relevant facts. You could then compare it for points of agreement > and a different perspective with information from the MEPIS project and > other Linux distributions who have been at the wrong end of the FSF's > stick. That's all assuming that the information that was once online is > now not so easily accessible -- I know that at least one source of > information has been taken down (a MEPIS project posting about the > subject was replaced with GPL compliance FAQ, or something to that > effect). > > > > I also think they should be indulgent but maybe I find time to research a > > little bit about these cases and maybe drop them a friendly mail. > > Excellent. Let me know how that works out for you, please. > > > > > > BTW as Ruby can be licensed under the GPL this is all but OFF TOPIC, I feel. > > Good point -- but I guess I can see the opposing perspective as well, > that it is sort of off topic. Sort of. Well there were worse threads concerning OTness ;) > > -- > CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] > "Real ugliness is not harsh-looking syntax, but having to > build programs out of the wrong concepts." - Paul Graham > > Right now I see that this really goes to your heart, I appreciate and respect people who speak out loudly what they feel. I will take a brake now, it is not fair anyway two against one, that is Rick & Robert against Chad. I still feel that the GPL can be the right thing, especially for Ruby code, which is source anyway. When it comes to Linuxen there are many potential problems. I will come back to you OL when/if I have learnt more about it. We have a very anti-FSF guy in the office I will have some good talks with him and then do my research. For me that was a very good thread (can you hear the violins? ;) sorry if I made you angry with my direct approach. Cheers Robert -- We have not succeeded in answering all of our questions. In fact, in some ways, we are more confused than ever. But we feel we are confused on a higher level and about more important things. -Anonymous