On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 10:12:45PM +0900, Rick DeNatale wrote: > On 3/12/07, Chad Perrin <perrin / apotheon.com> wrote: > > >Back on topic: If you're serious about Rails, and want to start with > >Rails then move into Ruby, I suspect that the second book you should > >pick up after Agile Web Development is a book called "Ruby for Rails". > >I haven't had a chance to go through it at all, but by reputation it is > >an excellent book as well, and teaches Ruby programming from a Rails > >perspective, going beyond merely teaching the framework and the minimum > >of Ruby knowledge necessary to use Rails. > > I might suggest that "Ruby for Rails" might be a good book to start > with. It covers both Ruby and Rails in a spiral fashion, giving you a > little Ruby, then a little Rails, then going back in more depth. > > It doesn't cover Ruby as deeply as the pickaxe, and it doesn't cover > Rails as deeply as AWDWR (and it's based on Rails 1.1 whereas AWDWR > 2nd ed is more up-to-date covering the recently released Rails 1.2), > but as an introduction to both Ruby and Rails as a whole it's probably > not a bad place to start. Thanks for adding a more experienced perspective on those books. I'll add some of the details of that to my store of knowledge. > > Now my experience was based on first reading the 1st ed of the pickaxe > on-line, then either the 1st ed of AWDWR or the 2nd ed of the Pickaxe > (or the other way around), then Ruby for Rails and AWDWR 2nd ed (sort > of in parallel). So I don't really know what it would have been like > to start with Ruby for Rails, any more than someone of my age knows > what it would be like to encounter Star Wars for the first time in the > the order Episode 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. I imagine it would be a little disorienting, but I'm just guessing. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] This sig for rent: a Signify v1.14 production from http://www.debian.org/