Pixel wrote: > > ... > > Now of course, the arguments above were in favour of Ruby vs Python, but are > no more :) Except for saying Ruby guided Python in the right direction. I really don't think that that's an accurate picture of history. Nested scopes is something that people have wanted in Python since before Ruby existed. It was hard to implement before circular garbage collection was implemented. Circular garbage collection is also something that people have wanted since before Ruby existed and is not implemented in a way that is at all similar to Ruby. It *may* be accurate to say that the impetus for finally unifying types and classes came from a sense of competition with Ruby. But I'm sure that for most of the rest, Guido couldn't even answer the question of whether Ruby supports them or not. Paul Prescod