Hi, I thought I was going to learn using Ruby On Rails, but it seems like its the wrong tool for me. It seems like Ruby On Rails is for people who wants to create quick website-applications and genrally 'website-stuff'. What I want to do is to make _real_ programs. By that I mean things like editors, browsers, Calculatores, drawing programs, etc. So therefore my question is: What should I start learning? I think i should inform you that I already know programming _very_ small console programs in Ruby (I have made a calculator, and a very basic editor). I started off 2 weeks ago and im an earlier PHP-programmer so im not 'new in business'. I have looked on Gtk and Tk because it seems like thats the tool i need to create 'real' programs. The problem is that i dont really like either of them. Is there any other modern option insted of the 'old school tools'? :-) Thanks! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.