------ art_116614_29737090.1167649124525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 12/31/06, Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter / sun.com> wrote: > > Robert Dober wrote: > > I guess it is very reasonable what you are saying and yet I`d wish to > have > > a SmallRuby, something squeakish you see. First that might really make > the > > difference for both languages and secondly it might as well turn out to > be > > faster and more agile than YARV or JRuby (well JRuby for sure as the > used > > language is just faster - Smalltalk just fits better to Ruby than Java). > > You do know that Smalltalk, even in its fastest incarnations, is still > slower than Java, right? oops I stepped on your feet, did I? Did the JVM speed up so much or is my reference rotten, I am going to look it up when back on work. Forgive my ignorance I should have put a question mark behind my statement but that holds for too many a things we think to know :( If the JVM has become that fast a Smalltalk VM should be able to become even faster I guess. I really dislike Java but even as biased as I am I recon JRuby must be a hell of a project and very important for the community. It is also my last trump when discussing Ruby with Java affacinados and it is a very high trump. But the motivation for JRuby holds for SmallRuby and looking at both languages (J&S) Smalltalk seems to fit better. Now even the greates Smalltalk fan ( and I am not ) could not immagine that a Smallruby would ever have the usage of JRuby. If Smalltalk will survive it will so in a niche I guess, it would be wounderful if Ruby could exist in that niche, would it not? And Squeak is far from being one of the fastest > incarnations. That I have heard too, but I did only intent to use Squeak as a FE (and BE too buit one could use any VM). -- > Charles Oliver Nutter, JRuby Core Developer > Blogging on Ruby and Java @ headius.blogspot.com > Help spec out Ruby today! @ www.headius.com/rubyspec > headius / headius.com -- charles.nutter / sun.com > > Happy New Year Robert -- "The real romance is out ahead and yet to come. The computer revolution hasn't started yet. Don't be misled by the enormous flow of money into bad defacto standards for unsophisticated buyers using poor adaptations of incomplete ideas." - Alan Kay ------ art_116614_29737090.1167649124525--