M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > Ola Bini wrote: >> M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: >> <snip> >>> jRuby is an investment. Only time will tell whether that investment >>> will pay off and what the payoffs will be. I don't know enough about >>> the Java runtime (or the CLR or Parrot, for that matter) to predict >>> success or failure. I'm personally much more interested in the open >>> source community efforts. There are many more opportunities for me to >>> create signal there than there are in two corporations, neither of >>> which pays me a dime. :) >>> >> >> Hi Ed, >> >> From your post I got the distinct impression that JRuby is no longer >> an open source project: "I'm personally much more interested in the >> open source community efforts." >> I just want to chime in and inform you that JRuby is still an Open >> Source project and very much a community effort. Charles and Tom are >> hired by Sun, but they are by no means the only ones contributing code >> to JRuby. Would Ruby stop being a community effort if Matz was >> employed full time by a company to implement it? (I'm not sure if he >> is or isn't, the question is hypothetical). >> >> What I have seen from Sun's involvement in JRuby this far is only for >> the benefit of JRuby. More resources and more information to better >> implement stuff, but no explicit steering towards subjects more >> interesting for Sun. >> >> I'm not an idealist and realize that Sun's involvement of course is >> because they think they can benefit from the project, but that doesn't >> make JRuby less Open Source or community driven. >> >> Regards > Ah ... OK. I'm glad to hear that jRuby is indeed a community/open source > effort. By the way, speaking of large corporations and open source, Sun > has taken some flack about the slow pace of opening up Java technology > in general. Given the size of the technology and the number of people > who would need to approve it, it's not a surprise to me that it would > take so long. But still, in general in the corporate world, many more > people are paid to work *with* open source technologies rather than to > work *on* them. > > So ... how far away are we from an open source JVM? :) > It's funny you should say that just today: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2055994,00.asp?kc=EWRSS03129TX1K0000616 -- Ola Bini (http://ola-bini.blogspot.com) JvYAML, RbYAML, JRuby and Jatha contributor System Developer, Karolinska Institutet (http://www.ki.se) OLogix Consulting (http://www.ologix.com) "Yields falsehood when quined" yields falsehood when quined.