I see the Perl 6 Apocalypse 3 is up. http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2001/10/02/apocalypse3.html Is there anything there that Ruby can learn from? I see Ruby is quoted as something Perl 6 is learning from. Hmm. It seems to me that Perl 6 could afford to learn from the Ruby gsub with block semantics. John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait Electronics Fax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 Christchurch Email : john.carter / tait.co.nz New Zealand I'm becoming less and less convinced of humans as rational beings. I suspect we are merely meme collectors, and the reason meme is only kept on to help count our change.