Rick DeNatale wrote: [snip] > There's a famous story about a similar lecture he gave at Apple, where > someone else pushed back in a similar way. If Oberon doesn't have > encapsulation how can it be object-oriented. In this case, Wirth's > ultimate rejoinder boiled down to "who can really say what > object-oriented means." To which the questioner responded, "Well, I > suppose I do, I'm Alan Kay and I invented the term." [snip] The most authoritative-looking account[1] I could find say that it was not Wirth giving the lecture (and that Alan didn't use his name in the retort). Good story, though :) [1] http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HeInventedTheTerm