I'm a ruby-only developer (so no Rails) and I wondered why there is no special Rails-Group. One main reason for rubys growing popularity is in fact Rails. But if I want to get an answer for a ruby-only-questions, I don't want to get those huge amount of Rails-specific topics. And it's the same if I'm looking for some poor guys with prolems concerning ruby-basics to help. The people with questions concerning ruby itself can head for comp.lang.ruby and the others with special Rails-problems can discuss at comp.lang.ruby.rails With more than 4000 members, I think there are enough coders outside to fill both of these groups. What do you think? Regards, naPOLeon