David Morton wrote: / ... > Advocacy could also simply mean someone who is passionate about > something, because it is good. Whereas marketing takes place all the > time for bad products; the salesman may not actually approve of the > product. Yes, true. The advocate may be a saint or a sinner, while the salesman is going to try to sell you something, regardless of how he feels about it. But the salesman wants you alive tomorrow, in the same way that a drug pusher does. It's a conflict between Gandhi (or Osama Bin Laden) and Willy Loman. :) -- Paul Lutus http://www.arachnoid.com