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<3a94cf510609121051g709ff1c0m45d8c948c68990d9 / mail.gmail.com>, Francis 
Cianfrocca <garbagecat10 / gmail.com> writes
>get simply by having larger teams and bigger budgets. Saving money in
>activities that are cost centers often makes a manager less
>influential, not more so. And in turn, it makes the manager's manager
>less influential. Ruby's productivity argument is not too likely to
>have much impact in these shops.

Its is, but you have to come at it from a different angle. That manager 
doesn't reduce his budget, but they do get a lot more done.

Same budget, more useful work done => more kudos.

Stephen
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