On Mon, Sep 04, 2006 at 11:26:18AM +0900, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > David Vallner wrote: > >> How about C#, well it runs in Windows and without serious and expensive > >> firewalls you just can't go anywhere near the Internet. > > > > You need to tighten off Unix-based servers too. Heck, there are even > > serious and expensive firewalls for Linux around too, because not > > everyone has an in-house iptables guru. > But everybody *should* have a *certified* Cisco engineer if they use > Cisco routers, for example. It's one of the costs of doing business. Frankly, iptables is easier to learn effectively than most proprietary firewalls -- and then there's stuff like IPCop, which makes things even easier. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] "The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit." - W. Somerset Maugham