http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/09/01.html Actually, despite the fact that I love Ruby a lot, I'm inclined to partially agree with him on this. Presently, our company does have some Rails-based web applications deployed but they're predominantly applications geared for use by only a few people (internal client use only); we've not yet tried to deploy a real public-facing web application based on Rails. For that, it works really well. We're taking a wait and see attitude before we attempt to use Rails for any high load applications; my own experiences attempting to optimize plain Ruby code for performance have been simultaneously frustrating and rewarding. I doubt I could do the same with a Rails app. So for now we're gonna stick with PHP for our public facing web applications, even if it is even worse for i18n/l10n/m17n applications than Ruby is...