The current Range class in ruby is quite useful, however, I was recently trying to capture a simple algorithm and ended up needing to express left-exclusion. This is the one feature ruby currently does not support in its Range class. I did some digging into 1.8.4's Range implementation and it appears that the changes needed to support left-exclusion would be minimal. Rather, the problem seems syntactical. Currently '..' and '...' are used to represent right-inclusion and -exclusion, respectively. This syntax clearly can not be extended to left-exclusion. There appears to have been a related debate about this on ruby-talk back in Oct. 2004, with the conclusion being, to paraphrase the entire discussion, "this is hard, lets forget about it for now." Has this been discussed since 2004? Would people be interested in finding a way to get left-exclusion into the Range class? This may be something that has been addressed in all the language work going into 1.9/2.0, and if so, any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Ciao, Cyrus Hall