I noticed that Curt posted the 1.8.4 OCI to RubyForge over the weekend, so I used it today to install 1.8.4 (I had 1.8.2 here at work). After doing so, I no longer had any of my Rails gems and need to reinstall (which is a real pain with the firewall here... have to download the gems manually, etc.) Anyone else have this problem? Thanks! Jeff www.softiesonrails.com -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.