surfunbear / yahoo.com wrote: > What exactly is JRuby and Grails ? JRuby is a Ruby implementation in Java. Grails is a Rails-like implementation in Groovy. > C# was microsofts rip off of java from what I understand and not an > alternative. Then you understand incorrectly. The whole .NET effort was made in response to Java, but C# was created avoiding a number of mistakes that Java made from the beginning. -a