------ art_58016_18691476.1151358205337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 6/26/06, Izidor Jerebic <ij.rubylist / gmail.com> wrote: > > Ahem, no. > 100% of Ruby lanuage creators say that they need something better > than Unicode :-) > > And if we get both unicode and other stuff, there is no point in > discussing it, no? > > Provided we get autoconversion, of course. > All due respect to matz and companyand the wondrous thing they have wrought, but *nobody* is perfect. Accepting a decision blindly based on who is making it is a recipe for trouble. My only concern is that while the proposed m17n implementation may make Ruby more perfect and more ideal for at least one person, it may (emphasis on 'may') make it harder for many thousands of others. Does that make sense? I'm sure there will be those who argue that Ruby is matz's creation and matz's creation alone, but there's a lot of people with a vested interest in "the Ruby way". A little critical analysis of the "benevolent dictator's" decisions is always prudent. If we get unicode and it's a lot harder than people like, or if it causes unpleasant compatibility, portability, or interoperability issues, then we're no better off. Hey, the uber-string m17n impl might be the most amazing, remarkable thing ever to come along. It just seems based on a lot of anecdotal evidence that this approach is very complex and very dangerous, and arguably has never been done right yet. matz and company are amazing hackers, but is it a good risk to take? Is it worth it for 10% of Ruby users or less? And again, I mean no disrespect by questioning the Ruby elders. It's just my way. -- Charles Oliver Nutter @ headius.blogspot.com JRuby Developer @ www.jruby.org Application Architect @ www.ventera.com ------ art_58016_18691476.1151358205337--