James Britt wrote: > Nicholas Evans wrote: > >> I'm not after a full-blown IDE. They'd be working under Windows, and >> I'm (perhaps wrongly) reluctant to open up the command prompt. I want >> to focus on programming, and not have to bother with Windows shell >> commands too. > > > A big part of programming is understanding the world you live in. > > There is nothing spooky about the command line, even in Windows. Agreed. Even in win32, I spend a lot of time at the command line. It's certainly better than it used to be years ago, now that it understands the up/down arrows and filename completion. A command line is simple and intuitive in a different way from how a GUI is simple and intuitive. It still has its place, and will for years to come. Although I won't be sad if we come up with something better. > Don't treat people like children, or they'll start acting like children. > > Assume the best, and let them show you otherwise. True enough. They *are* high school students, though. Cut them a little slack. Still, if you've never used the command line, you can learn most of what you need in half an afternoon. Hal