Hi -- On Sun, 28 May 2006, Paul D. Kraus wrote: > Perl has me all turned around with ruby classes. > > I see some classes use a 'self.' and others don't. When to use? 'self' is the default object, a role that rotates among different objects at different points in your program. When, and even whether, you use it explicitly depends on what you're trying to do. If you want to add a singleton method (i.e., a method for one specific object) to the object that is self, you would do: def self.method_name ... end That construct is very commonly used for creating class methods: class C def self.some_method ... end end but you can do it with any object, and in fact it's just a not-very-special case of: def some_object.some_method which is how you would add a singleton method to some_object. Since self is the default object, when you call a method, you normally don't have to specify self as the receiver: class C def x puts "Hi" end def y x # effectively the same as: self.x end end However, when you use methods that end with = (equal sign), you do have to use an explicit 'self' receiver, to distinguish the method call from a local variable assignment. This is the (small) price paid for the nice syntactic sugar that comes with =-terminated methods: class C def x=(n) @x = n end def y self.x = 10 # calls method x= with argument 10 x = 10 # sets local variable x end end > Also what does an @ do in front of a variable? @variable is an instance variable. Whenever you see @variable, you're seeing an instance variable that belongs to whatever object is 'self' at that moment. > I think i understand private methods basically they are things only used > with in the class and never return a value or effect anything beyond that > correct? No; the difference between a private method and a public method is that a private method cannot be called with an explicit receiver. You cannot do this: c = C.new c.z if z is a private instance method of c. That means that you can only do the equivalent of c.z under circumstances where 'self' is c -- because, under such circumstances, a simple call to z will be equivalent to c.z (as in the earlier example). So generally you only see calls to private methods inside *other* methods in the same class: class C def x puts "Hi" end private :x def y x # OK, because no explicit receiver; it uses self end end (There are a couple of special cases etc. but that's the bulk of it.) David -- David A. Black (dblack / wobblini.net) * Ruby Power and Light, LLC (http://www.rubypowerandlight.com) > Ruby and Rails consultancy and training * Author of "Ruby for Rails" from Manning Publications! > http://www.manning.com/black