DAB> I find them useful, and I always find it exasperating when Micros**t DAB> plays a determining role in anything.... But this threading problem DAB> has been brought up a lot in the past and is still causing DAB> inconvenience, so it seems like something has to be done. You *know* what has to happen don't you? Someone has to write the kickin' newsreader in ruby using a cross-platform GUI (such as FOX), and then if any ruby-ite complains, just point them to that killer app. :-) -joe