I really prefer to read comp.lang.ruby instead of being subscribed to a mailing list. And I've read and posted to c.l.r for years: the newsgroup model is very much preferrable for me. However, the gateway between this mailing list and c.l.r has been down for a while now and there aren't nearly as many posts over there. So I finally gave in and subscribed. Not good having things divided like this. Any word on when the gateway will be back? I don't know if this has been discussed here. The search tools for the mailing list aren't all that great. Phil