I specifically need both date and time. I find it strange that a modern language like Ruby has this limitation. Looking at the documentation I find no mention of this. To mee, this is a dangerous bug. People developing applications may not have thought about testing dates well into the future. The Time module needs an update to cope with a wider range of data. C# for example, handles values ranging from 12:00:00 midnight, January 1, 0001 Anno Domini (Common Era) to 11:59:59 P.M., December 31, 9999 A.D. (C.E.). Regards, Peter Krantz http://www.peterkrantz.com http://www.standards-schmandards.com