Hi all, One of the coolest things for me about learning ruby is that it's the first language I've learned in a decade where I actually had to learn a new language. Once you know C/C++, you can pick up Java, PHP, perl, Python, and even VB without really having to learn new grammar... you just learn where the braces and dollar signs go. One of the joys of ruby is that when I find myself using a klunky grammar construct, there is often an elegant solution if I will just surrender my C++ thinking style. That paragraph could spark a thread of its own, but in this case, its lead-up for a simpler question. Which do you find more readable: # this version if !correct handle_error do_some_other_thing end # or this version unless correct handle_error do_some_other_thing end When dealing with single-lines, I find the inverted construct to be MUCH more readable: handle_error unless correct but when I have to make a block, my C++ instincts really prefer the "if !" version. I'm just throwing this out here... what do you prefer, and why? Do you find the "unless x" construct as (or more) readable than the "if !x" construct? When I see a block beginning with unless, I really have to stop reading and tease out the logic. Is this a good instinct thing, or is it simply me lacking fluency in a common ruby idiom? Hmm, I just discovered this syntax, and for small blocks, I prefer it greatly: ( handle_error; do_some_other_thing ) unless correct Though I worry that ( ..., ... ) syntax may have some side effects I'm not expecting. That's list declaration syntax, isn't it? So using it as a block might bend POLS.... -dB -- David Brady ruby_talk / shinybit.com "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the Jolly Roger, and start slitting throats." -- H. L. Mencken