Austin Ziegler wrote:
> On 4/4/06, Isaac Gouy <igouy / yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Austin Ziegler wrote:
> > > On 3/31/06, sullivanz.pku / gmail.com <sullivanz.pku / gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > This might be a stupid question, but I really wonder if ruby is much
> > > > slower than python and perl.
> > > Try it. And ignore anyone who tells you to look at the utterly useless
> > > Alioth shootout. It doesn't model anything real-world and doesn't
> > > actually tell you anything about performance for your problems.
> > >
> > > I haven't checked in a while, but they weren't very honest about their
> > > aims last time I checked, either. It's simply a matter of
> > > self-promotion and comparison for Inane Gullibles.
> > "I haven't checked in a while..."
> > Then your comments would apply to the Alioth shootout in... 2004?
>
> 2005. I avoid the shootout like the plague, until you pop up and
> pretend that your pet project has any relevance to anything.
>
> > There's nothing wrong with saying how little can be learned from
> > measuring small programs, but saying don't look suggests there's
> > something to be hidden.
>
> No, saying "don't look" says that your aims are bogus, your tests are
> worse, your validation is nonsensical to nonexistent, and your
> presentation is dishonest.
>
> Saying "don't look" says that the Alioth shootout isn't worth the
> server space it takes up. It's certainly not worth the amount of
> pimping you do for it.
>
> -austin
> --
> Austin Ziegler * halostatue / gmail.com
>                * Alternate: austin / halostatue.ca

And you believe all that without even looking - truly remarkable!

(I suppose there are people who make judgements about Ruby without
looking.)