Sorry for the late reply, I was no longer expecting replies on this thread. My problem really is about the missing right side control/option keys on powerbook's keyboard layout. From other people's reply, I found out that usage styles of emacs have fragmented quite a bit. In my case, I heavily use right side control/option keys. To press Ctrl-a, for example, I use my right small finger to reach control key on the right and press a with my left small finger. That's why I have difficulties with apple's laptops. I find apple's desktop keyboard pleasant to use. But I guess you use left control/option keys only mostly? Many emacs people on this list seem to so. Thanks for the reply, it's very interesting to hear about people's different usage style of emacs! best, daesan On Mar 28, 2006, at 12:18 PM, BreadWithSpam / fractious.net wrote: > Dae San Hwang <daesan / gmail.com> writes: > >> For all you emacs/PowerBook users, how do you live with your >> PowerBook? I've been thinking about buying a powerbook for four >> years now but didn't only because using emacs key bindings seems >> extremely awkward on Apple's laptops. On the lower left side of > > Been using it for years. Never had any trouble with it at all. > > I had a harder time a number of years ago going from a Sun > keyboard with the control key where everyone's got the capsLock > key these days to a keyboard with the control key on the > bottom left. > >> I actually had expected someone would build/sell a customized >> PowerBook keyboards tailored for emacs users by now.. I am confused > > You can control the keyboard layout. Is it worth it? You'd > end up screwing up everytime you used a 'normal' keyboard. > > For the same reason, I keep customizations of emacs itself > to a minimum, too. > >> With the introduction of MacBook Pro and near ubiquitousness of WiFi >> connection, my desire for a laptop couldn't have been higher. Can >> anybody who share this dilemma comment on this? > > I love my PB G4 15". Just got an Intel iMac, and will eventually > replace the G4 pbook with an Intel machine, but not yet. > >> For those of you who think I'm a total nut for expecting Apple to >> solve my person problem, emacs key bindings have been supported in > > Kind of. You'll probably hate the fact that the trackpad > only has a single button even more than anything the keyboard > can do to you. (There are some things you can do to help > with that, too - SideTrack, an extension, helps a lot). If > I'm going to be working on the machine for more than a little > while, I plug in a small external mouse (with scrollwheel and > two buttons). > > -- > Plain Bread alone for e-mail, thanks. The rest gets trashed. > No HTML in E-Mail! -- http://www.expita.com/nomime.html > Are you posting responses that are easy for others to follow? > http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting > Dae San Hwang daesan / gmail.com