James- Yeah, that was a nice one. Just very suble at the end. Like waving a red cape in front of a newsgroup full of bulls! Also, good frigg'n work on the Elevator Pitch site. Yesterday I had the rather horrible experience of having to pitch my company to a VC who didn't seem to get it. So, can't wait to perfect the pitch for the next one. Maybe the next one will have ever heard of Ruby. Doubt it. -hampton.