Jeppe Jakobsen wrote: > Hey if people is against an exam, why not make it more like a test so that > people and especially newbies (like me!) would know on which areas to > improve themselves? > I've seen such a test for C++, and I thought it was a really great tool. Want to get better at Ruby? Help answer questions on ruby-talk. People ask all sorts of stuff, from the simple to the sublime. When a question comes up, offer an answer. See, if you take a test in private, you can be a major doofus and no one need know. But if you try answering questions in public, then the pressure is on; few things sharpen the mind like fear of public ridicule. Actually, few people get ridiculed here. But if you are wrong, people *will* point it out; so you either confirm you knowledge, or expand it. Far better than any test. Want a certificate? Tell people to Google "Ruby+#{your_name}" and judge for themselves. -- James Britt "In Ruby, no one cares who your parents were, all they care about is if you know what you are talking about." - Logan Capaldo