On Tue, 28 Mar 2006, itsme213 wrote: > thank you sir. love the library. is the '_' convention something that is (or > should be) configurable? it is actually configurable. you do something like xx_configure "method_missing", XX::STRICT # tag methods require '_' xx_configure "method_missing", XX::CRAZY_LIKE_A_HELL # tag methods no not require '_' in your class. you example is a great example of why __not__ to do that however, without the '_' this xml{ p 'a' } would call ruby's built-in 'p' method. this would fail, but silently. one of the big differences with xx and other html/xml generation libs is that it's __designed__ to be mixed into other classes to give them html generation capbilities (a la widgets). the thing is, when you mixin to a class like, say, Array, you've already lost a huge part of you namespace like 'length', 'find', 'each', etc. none of these methods will trigger method missing and so cannot be tag methods. this is less a big deal for html than for xml, which can contain pretty much anything as tag names. if one uses a blanket method missing approach, or even a receiver as the tag generator, one simply cannot generate xml using o.type{ } # oops, all object have 'type' o.id{ } # oops, all object have 'id' you can use a BlankSlate here... but then you've also lost the ability to mixin rather than agregate. > i'm also looking forward to experimenting with traits. it sounds like > something that could be used for recording meta-data in lots of places, > including things like nitro/og. for sure. it's one of the things it was designed for. being able to get back list of traits is very valuable. for instance, this line, taken from an 'initialize' method, iterates over all of this object's class traits and creates an instance trait for the current object that gets a deep copy of the class trait as the default value: klass = self.class mcp = lambda{|obj| Marshal::load(Marshal::dump(obj))} klass::class_traits.each{|r,w| klass::trait(r){ mcp[klass.send(r)]}} so basically it says : "i have all the same traits as my class and i'll bootstrap myself from the values of those traits which have been parameterized in my class" this reason this is done is that this class is part of a hierarchy where each subclass adds more traits to parameterize the class. with this generic line i can make any instance of that subclass bootstrap properly with no new code. so class Parent class_trait 'p' => 42 def intialize ... end end class Child < Parent class_trait 'c' => 42.0 end child = Child::new and here 'child' would have the __instance__ traits 'a' and 'b' with default values gotten from the class method. regards. -a -- share your knowledge. it's a way to achieve immortality. - h.h. the 14th dali lama