John Lam wrote: > I know there are some Smalltalk folks who hang out here, so I'd like to pose > perhaps a fairly ignorant question: > > How far away is irb from a Smalltalk development environment? > > Put another way, what must need to be done to get to a Smalltalk development > environment? Will being able to load / save image files get me closer (have > folks done this by serializing the ObjectSpace tree to disk already)? Or am > I just going to have to experience it for myself to get the gestalt of > Smalltalk IDEs? I've been working on a Self/Squeak type interface environment for Ruby: http://www.mike-austin.com/interface-design/Ruby-Inertia.jpg I think Self and Squeak are pioneers in live design, but I find them a little over-complex. Ruby-Inertia is being designed from scratch using SDL, OpenGL and FreeType. I've written prototypes of it in C++, Io and Dylan also. So far, Ruby seems to be the easiest (I wonder why? :) Nothing to release yet, it needs a little more work. http://research.sun.com/self/ http://www.squeak.org/ Mike > Thanks for any & all insight ... > -John > http://www.iunknown.com