------ art_2037_24375159.1142459351912 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think what would be nice to achieve from all this is that when Matz and his gang release a new version of Ruby, somebody could either take this code and compile it using a HOW-TO, or for people who don't want to have the hassle, quickly download a pre-compiled version. This doesn't have to be anything fancy, such as Curt's installer, just a zip-file which you extract and there you are - a basic c:\ruby structure (or wherever). Perhaps a short PDF or HTML file in the root with a "getting started". It might be sensible to try to get rubygems integrated into this somehow but maybe not immediately. I think there is genuine benefit in making this available to the wider world so that more people will at the very least get to have a look at Ruby who may not have bothered when all they see is a tar.gz without too much in the way of Windows help. Like it or not, plenty of Windows users out there...! It seems a small but important step forward. I'm certainly not trying to take away Curt's job (unless he wants me to!) - there is definitely in my view a place for the one-click installer with all of it's goodies, but for many a basic ruby install would suffice and for others they could take this install and build on it with ruby gems and so on to create their preferred environment. I'm not sure *how* I can help at this point, but if I can then I will, now and in the future. I would like to find a way to help the community in some way, just not sure where my niche is at the moment. On 15/03/06, Wilson Bilkovich <wilsonb / gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, I knew that.. Didn't mean for my response to come out sounding > defensive. > Windows is a discipline, like hair shirts or nettle brushes for monks. > It focuses the mind. > > On 3/15/06, Glenn Smith <glenn.ruby / gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes I should point out that no offence was meant to you with my previous > > email. :o) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15/03/06, Wilson Bilkovich <wilsonb / gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I know you were kidding, but I felt like sending an e-mail, so.. > > > A more fair comparison would be a set of Ruby build instructions for a > > > Linux distro that didn't ship with a package manager or a copy of GCC. > > > Highly nontrivial. > > > > > > > > > -- All the best Glenn Aylesbury, UK ------ art_2037_24375159.1142459351912--