On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:28:32 +0900, you wrote: >Yes, but this thread is about "first language". I don't know how Perl's >OO has changed since Perl 5 but then it was horrible. it still feels "tacked on". i think python's does also... [incr tcl] has oo similar to C, but i'm not sure i'd recommend that as a first language... lua is great as a first language. oo, very clean syntax, cross platform and small. it also makes a great embedded language. http://home.cogeco.ca/~tsummerfelt1 telnet://ventedspleen.dyndns.org