Hi group. I am an avid lurker. ActiveRecord (without Rails...) or ObjectGraph ? I have no real experience with ORMs. Any insight to this desicion is appreciated. The Case:: I want to write a SOAP based server interface according to a specific industry domain API based on SOAP/XML-RPC/HTTP with a set of CRUD style methods and 20+ XML objects with a decent level of complexity. The interface also holds some business rules and rules for behaviour. The backend will be a mySql database and I want to learn/utilize ORM for the first time. One obvious answer might be: "Try both...", but I dont have the capacity to do that. regards, Henning