I'm not sure what information would suite you best, so I made a couple screen grabs and put them on my server: http://strider.terralab.com/~bryan/ruby/ Bryan > Can you put a breakpoint on this line, and see the content of super and > klass, i.e. > > *(struct RClass *)super > *(struct RClass *)rb_cObject > *(struct RClass *)klass > > >Guy Decoux