Yes, reading is certainly not a bad thing... :) There just comes a time for application and I've already read parts of various Ruby books and of course have a CS background, so the trick now is to apply it and learn it better in context. I would love to have pickaxe sitting beside me while I'm actually working on something rather than reading for the sake of absorbing, which for me doesn't work nearly as well. -George On Feb 15, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Charlie Bowman wrote: I completely agree. I wasn't putting down reading. I'm always reading at least two books. The point I was trying to make was that reading will help much more if you try to apply the theory and concepts you find in the book to real life problems. I can honestly say that the "Pragmatic Programmer" changed my coding style completely! On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 23:51 +0900, James Edward Gray II wrote: > On Feb 15, 2006, at 8:31 AM, Charlie Bowman wrote: > >> I usually try to find a small tool that I would like to have and then >> create it. > > That's great advice. > >> You'll learn a lot more by writing code than reading it. > > I feel reading is a little under-valued and can be extremely helpful > to your growth as a programmer. Check out the book Code Reading > sometime. I sure learned a lot from it. > > James Edward Gray II > >