If Struct is a shorthand way for creating Classes, why don't objects created from those Classes have instance_variables? Struct.new 'Car', :make, :model, :year c = Struct::Car.new 'Saturn', 'SC2', 1997 c.instance_variables => [] c.members => ["make", "model", "year"] Note that members is an instance method of Struct, whereas instance_variables is an instance method of Object. -- R. Mark Volkmann Partner, Object Computing, Inc.