On 4 Feb 2006, at 00:07, tsumeruby / tsumelabs.com wrote: > I'd seriously like this to be the other way around. Head hunters > which are > programmer peer reviewed! :) None Shall Pass. Seriously, they really don't get the work we do. Programmers should headhunt other programmers - it's the only way it can work. Sure, HR can make sure the guy/gal is able to dress himself (if it's that kind of boring place where they require people to be dressed), but the core skills just can't be grasped by RC/headhunter- types if you ask me. > I've never had to look/apply for a job, but I suppose other people > work > differently. You're either very young, very rich, very poor and don't mind or very lucky. :-) I'd like not to have to look/apply for work. How'd you do it? > I don't have a problem with personal requests, but when commercial > like > content starts floating to a list, I think.. > > "*running on horse* The capitalists are coming!" I'm British you know. And Capitalist(*). If I weren't such a nice chap, I'd think you were mocking me. :-) At the end of the day, we only get to write as much code as we do, because somebody somewhere is prepared to give us the money we need for food/shelter to write that code. I'd rather do this for a living than, say, have to be an accountant or a management consultant. As a short-term contract freelancer, I am looking for work *CONSTANTLY*. Apart from the Summer when I like to try and spend my time staring at clouds. But during the Winter, I am a code-whore, through and through. Plus you're assuming all of us are in it just for the money - when I'm earning, a substantial piece of my income goes to good causes. > When this happens, he means a place is no longer a heaven where > programmers > can just talk about ruby, but need to be bothered by the "norms" ;) Point taken. Like I said, I'm happy keeping my commercial discussions away from here, and think others can be encouraged to do the same. As long as we all know where those discussions are, which I believe includes http://jobs.rubynow.com/ (*) I was once described as a Trotsky entry-ist, but he was drunk and I was beating him at cards... -- Paul Robinson