Thank you for your responses. To fix my problems with too much
technology, dbl suggest I use more! I have no idea what IRC is, but I
suspect that is another install etc... I will pass! But I will try to
hang on with the install thing. Worse comes to worse I will try
locomotive which is supposed to
be all in one.

So I asked for help on the rubyonrails as Wilson and James suggested,
which for some reason does not appear on the google archive? why is
that. But it is on the regular list archive. 

thanks

anne