Steve Litt wrote: >On Tuesday 10 January 2006 11:15 pm, David Vallner wrote: > > >>Steve Litt wrote: >> >> >>>On Tuesday 10 January 2006 01:17 pm, David Vallner wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Stephen Waits wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi David, >>>>> >>>>>Are you sure you're in the right group? The reason I ask is because >>>>>you mention lots of things that aren't ruby. AJAX, J2EE, etc.. >>>>> >>>>>If it's Ruby on Rails you're looking for, please try the Rails >>>>>mailing list.. visit the Rails mailing list page at: >>>>> >>>>> http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >>>>> >>>>>If it's not Rails you're looking for, could you be more specific? >>>>> >>>>>Sincerely, >>>>>Steve >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Whence the [OT] tag, this one was a shot in the blind hoping to avoid >>>>stumbling blindly over Google results and pouring over documentation and >>>>tiresome formal specifications by asking a community that has already >>>>proven to be helpful. I did toy with the AJAX support in Rails, and I >>>>wondered if by any weird twist of chance anyone can recommend from >>>>experience a similarly well-integrated solution for a J2EE backend, >>>>which will be the case in the project mentioned. (Alas.) >>>> >>>>David Vallner >>>> >>>> >>>Have you tried doing an ultra-simple ajax yet? Maybe the simplest possible >>>ajax program could work, and then you could increment from there. >>> >>>I plan on doing a trivial Ajax program sometime this week, and I'll let >>>you know what I find out. >>> >>>SteveT >>> >>> >>I went through some tutorials, but I believe I'll need some >>production-quality backing for the project. The schedule of it is pretty >>thin stretched already, everyone else on the team has even less AJAX >>experience than I do, and the requirement to implement a web-deployed >>rich client is pretty much a given. That's why I'd like to avoid >>succumbing to the "Not Invented Here" syndrome and try to make heavy use >>of third-party code for this - the situation doesn't quite provide for >>the development team to learn to hand-code AJAX patterns in the time given. >> >>David Vallner >> >> > >Hi David, > >I'm not sure what you're saying above. Do you consider Rails >production-quality backing? Tonight I did the Agile Rails Ajax that replaces >a <div> with a different view. Then I used that same technique to implement >two Fibbonacci Number Generators -- one that increments when you refresh the >page, and the other that increments on the Ajax call. That proved >conclusively that Ajax was not refreshing the whole web page. The process of >making that app was almost trivial, partially because I started it by >generating the controller and both views, and then just modified what had >already been made. > >In the next few days I want to try to make a form with field level validation >instead of form level validation. > >There are lots of other Ajax techniques I'll be looking at this week. > >Thanks > >SteveT > >Steve Litt >http://www.troubleshooters.com >slitt / troubleshooters.com > > > Thank you very much, but I don't need a Rails or AJAX sales pitch, I need relevant advice on how I could make a J2EE server setup. We've Got Managers *sigh*, and I don't really see my persuasive abilities good enough to push Rails as the server-side environment, however I'd -personally- prefer that. (Mind you, not as a team member, becase none of the other team members have ANY Ruby skills, as opposed to heavy Java schooling the company provides). David Vallner