Ruby is currently mentioned on Slashdot. I posted some references. It may be time for *gentle* advocacy (you know ... the good kind). Have fun. -- -- Jim Weirich jweirich / one.net http://w3.one.net/~jweirich --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it." -- Donald Knuth (in a memo to Peter van Emde Boas)