... or better GUI APIs for Ruby. (Primary questions at the bottom) - Long Version/Background - Hello all and sorry for the disruption, but I'm mid-stream of learning Ruby and I have some GUIs I want to write. However Ruby/Tk... isn't as easy as falling down a hill. The best part of it is that it comes in the Ruby install for Windows XP which I downloaded. The second best part is that the Pragmatic guide has a short chapter on it. Using it is a different story. Yes, I have managed to make some GUIs - my standard Tic-Tac-Toe GUI, a file explorer, and a basic text editor. But I'm finding it very, very hard to get any more complex primarily because I cannot find any definitive information on it. Certainly there is the "Use Perl/Tk manuals by doing the following translations" key, except that is incorrect for non-basic elements, if they even appear in Ruby/Tk. TkOptionMenubutton isn't from Tk, and the 3 TkOption*'s don't seem to fit the 2 Option*'s in Tk. I've also gone through some other references like the MacDevCenter Tk Primer - states that you need to start your option list with a '*' or it doesn't work. However mine worked fine without it, which I hope means that the API has matured since then and not what it could otherwise mean. This page (email) gives a better overview of Ruby/Tk than most do, but again lacks many of the specifics I need to get the API to work. http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/138653?help-en On a more philosophical note, I am still getting used to Ruby and having to script things instead of write-and-compile things, and my question is: Can Ruby be made explicit instead of implicit? I can grant you that Java only seems explicit to me because: a) I've spent enough time on the basics that I never have to think about them anymore, and b) that IDEs have had Ctrl+Space working for a long time for it, and c) I can always fall back on the somewhat informative Javadoc at java.sun.com. So are there IDEs for Ruby which provide everything Eclipse provides including the things which Ruby's scriptiveness requires, like validating variable names are of the correct type and scope and defined beforehand? Perhaps also including an IRB - minus the double character-per-keypress like the SciTE(?). I fought long enough with Swing and SWT to make my own basic enclosing APIs so that if everything compiled, everything ran (usually even correctly). With Ruby that isn't possible, but I'm curious if a better paradigm could exist with Ruby and GUIs. - Short Version - My questions are: 0. Which version of Tcl/Tk does Ruby/Tk correspond to? Is there an exact translation list showing which elements have Ruby/Tk counterparts, or where to find implementations of them? (I haven't tried using tkextlib yet) 1. Is there a definitive list of all valid key-value pairs for any or all Tk elements? Explicitly listed with the method used to set them, eg. .configure() or .command() etc. Hopefully also with one or more examples of each and an explanation of what effects they are defined as having (say, a Unit Text for each key-value pair?). If the only resource are the Tcl/Tk man pages (where elements don't match 1-to-1 for Ruby/Tk), have those been effective for others? 1b. A more definitive list of bind event name/combinations would be much appreciated, as well as if .command() doesn't exist for an element (having problems using it for TkOptionMenubutton), what can be used instead on a change - or to bind to the associated TkVariable's change. 2. Has anyone compare/contrasted the existing GUI APIs for Ruby? Do any of them have a Visual Studio? Or do any which can easily install on Windows XP by a newbie have a Visual Design utility? I'm especially interested in one which supports multiple monitors and a variety of resolutions. 3. Is there an index page or GUI to definitively show what in the ruby\tk subdirectories are runnable demos/samples and which are simply included files? 4. Is there a Ruby/Tk homepage or Bugzilla? Several things have shown incorrect behaviour, including TkOptionMenubutton where at times the menu pops up completely separated from the menu or even the GUI itself. I suppose that could be my settings' fault, however I'd still consider that a bug if it was. Thanks for any pointers, -Chris