On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 04:03:13AM +0900, Josef 'Jupp' SCHUGT wrote: > Hi! > > At Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:20:40 +0900, Chad Perrin wrote: > > I always just kinda figured that Linux *is* my IDE. > > To quote Sting's famous song "Russians": I don's subscribe to this > point of view. > > Please recall that IDE means 'integrated development environment'. > Many attributes apply to Unix as an environment but 'integrated' > definitely is not among them. > > Let me illustrate this with an example that sometimes make me hack my > keyboard instead of hacking *on* it: > > For searching forward for some string you may need to use Ctrl-F, > Ctrl-S or '/' depending on which program you are currently using > (shell, editor, debugger). Integration on the other hand would require > that the same operation is always bound to the same keystroke. Since I'm pretty well dedicated to vim as my primary editor, the same operation *is* always bound to the same keystroke. Choosing the specific tools you use in the Linux IDE is roughly equivalent to personalizing the settings for a highly configurable IDE product like Eclipse or Visual Studio. Well -- maybe not equivalent, but analogous, at any rate. > > The Emacs operating system and the vim editor are much closer to an > IDE than Unix. Combine directory browsing and shell access from within the editor, and/or additional terminal emulator windows open for more direct shell access, and you've got all the IDE you need. -- Chad Perrin [ CCD CopyWrite | http://ccd.apotheon.org ] unix virus: If you're using a unixlike OS, please forward this to 20 others and erase your system partition.