On 12/15/05, swill <sillewille / gmail.com> wrote: > Sorry this is so far off topic, but there are a lot of smart, > experienced people here. > > Anyone have thoughts about using credit card gateways vs. something > like the PayPal merchant solution? It seems like the gateways just > pick your pockets clean. Experiences? Recommendations? It seems > like the PayPal solution might be a little cheaper to start with. > > Granted my opinion is biased as I work for a payment processor, but if you are starting a real business as opposed to a hobby then get yourself a real merchant account. If it's a small home based business then there isn't anything wrong with Paypal at all. I set my wife up with a paypal business account and it works great for her. Spend some time shopping around. Different payment processors are good in different areas. For example the company I work for specializes in membership sites and recurring billing, and we don't have nearly as many features for shippable products. Authorizenet is good for shippable products but sucks for recurring billing. Verisign is pretty good at both but you will pay a lot by the time you get all the features you want. You should not pay more than $50 or so setup fee on a merchant account, and total monthly fees of around $25. A good discount rate for an internet merchant account is around 2.5%. 2.1% is about the best you can find, and if you see rates below 2% it's a lie. One of the main things to be aware of with any third party billing company is that you don't own your customers. Technically the customer is a customer of the billing company. This is especially important when in the future you might grow out of a solution like Paypal, and you find out that you can't take any of the credit card info with you. If you run a subscription based site this is a bad thing. If you sell shippable products it's not so big of a deal. And lastly, always read the contract. Most people don't, and they should. Chris