In article <46C203DE-947D-4A5C-A31B-26E68FB9F060 / hashref.com>,
Xavier Noria  <fxn / hashref.com> wrote:
>On Dec 15, 2005, at 15:17, Doug H wrote:
>
>> I'd recommend the exact opposite.  If you ignore the libraries and GUI
>> toolkits, the book is virtually useless.  Most people are using  
>> ruby to
>> develop _applications_, not to learn programming for programming's
>> sake.
>
>I agree with the other poster about the expectations the title  
>creates. I readed the book and was useful for me because i was  
>learning, practical issues are addressed, and you are exposed to  
>idiomatic Ruby. But I would expect it to evolve to explain "The Ruby  
>Way" of programming, so my vote goes there.
>
>Explaining libraries and toolkits is certainly useful, but a topic  
>for a different book in my opinion.

Exactly, or different little books like the Pragmatic folks are doing.  GUI 
toolkits, for example, should be covered in those kinds of little books (50 to 
100 pages).  "The Pocket Book of Ruby/(Tk|Qt|gtk|...)"


Phil