In article <1134655968.140192.205720 / g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Doug H <doug00 / gmail.com> wrote: >I'd recommend the exact opposite. If you ignore the libraries and GUI >toolkits, the book is virtually useless. Most people are using ruby to >develop _applications_, not to learn programming for programming's >sake. > I'm not necessarily talking about 'learning programming for programming's sake' (though, personally I see nothing wrong with that and I hope to see a good bit of that in there :). I'm talking about learning advanced Ruby programming techniques that will help you develop those applications/APIs/Frameworks that you want to develop. Phil