Doesn't mention Ruby directly but does talk about whats hip (LAMP which I guess means we can include Ruby). http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/dec2005/tc20051213_042973. htm Stephen -- Stephen Kellett Object Media Limited http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk/software.html Computer Consultancy, Software Development Windows C++, Java, Assembler, Performance Analysis, Troubleshooting