Damphyr wrote: >> Interesting point. I'll look into Tk. > This is actually a point that is valid with almost all widget systems > *except* the one Microsoft uses. ... and that could be the reason why there are many more apps in VB than almost anything else. VB (and its Visual Studio counterparts) allow you put something together quickly. All this messing about with layout managers and graph paper is a PITA.. (GUI newbie with a VB background :) Graham