On Tuesday 15 November 2005 20:46, Nathaniel S. H. Brown wrote: > I have been learning Rails for several months now, and at first I was > simply learning the MVC principles and architecture, but once I want to > dive deeper into the functionality and build a serious application, I found > I needed very drastically to get familiar with the language it was built > on, Ruby. If I didn't have the entrance point of Rails, I likely would not > be organizing the Rails conference, which will in turn promote Ruby by > default :) This is great. Some of us come from the other side, as I had no idea what Ruby was or why I should care. The project I'm writing will have a web piece, so my boss (who is very smart) was looking at RoR. We decided on Ruby for the application, regardless of web framework, as it's not simply a web app, and here I am. So it was rails that got me into Ruby, but I still haven't used it. Ever. :-) I love Ruby, and even more, love getting paid to write in it. :-) (thanks matz, you already have a spot in the glory box.)