On 03/11/05, Peter Hickman <peter / semantico.com> wrote: > Certification tends to get pushed as a 'good thing' by people selling > certification or by programmers who don't have the skills. There are > companies who will certify Perl programmers, which was news to myself > and many, many Perl programmers. None of whom are certified. I agree. I think the best way to know a language is to have a little search around on the internet and find a good book... then practice practice practice. A good programmer should be able to change from one language to another with very little effort, I think its very possible to learn a language by looking at some programming cookbook examples. However, if someone is very new to programming then Ruby is quite a nice/easy language to learn, and so beginners may want to learn programming concepts with Ruby... a course/certification may be good for them. Also, in my opinion, i think people should be certified on programming concepts, such as Agile and Web Application Programming. Certificates could say: "Certified in Agile and Web Application Programming", the course that they are on could then teach Ruby (or J2EE or other). I guess you could say I see both good and bad parts in certification. Daniel.